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Booster draft 1: tournament thread [Completed]
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Good point. 
What about making it a rare?
Move Hound to uncommon and Giant to common and lower the X card per draft for the Tempys' common.

Kinda how Uterra is broken down.

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I like Johnny's idea of moving Volcanic Giant to common (to give Tempys more commons). However, I would put Flameblade Champion at Uncommon and Magma Hound at rare instead of vice versa. (In particular, Echowisp is rare and Echowisp suffers a lot if Magma Hounds are prevalent in the draft … therefore, I really like putting Echowisp and Magma Hound at the same rarity). 

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I would agree except that Hounds are also answers to 'shapers, Prowler, Earthshaker, Hydra and now Flameblade.  As we have it right now, we would have to spend 2 actions in order to answer those cards.

I know we are not going to be close to what an actual draft might be, but having Hound as an uncommon is a step towards that direction. 

I am game either way.  Just my thoughts.

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SeomanReborn won his game with Tristan, so the last game in Pool B round 2 is:

[BD1-B-D] SeomanReborn v. Wolffgang

As noted before, Tristan gets the bye.

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I made the thread SeomanReborn, so whenever you are ready we can start :)

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just finished my game with racecar, who do I play next?

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That would be me, in game [BD1-A-T] I believe.  It's also a game just for fun and bragging rights (more so even then the rest of these), because we've both locked advancement to the top 8.  (Congrats on your advancement, btw!)

I won't be starting to play tonight--hopefully I'll be up for it tomorrow morning.

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So in Round 2 of Pool A, I believe that we are waiting on Ddoberne and Grim to finish (Here is a link to that thread)

The final round for Pool A is:

Loser of Grim2103 vs Ddoberne (BD1-A-U) gets the Round 3 bye.
[BD1-A-T] CerebralPaladin vs Hoywolf
[BD1-A-S]  Racecar0 vs Lidralyn
[BD1-A-R]  Dreak  vs  Winner of Grim2103 vs Ddoberne (BD1-A-U)

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Congrats to SeomanReborn for the win against Wolffgang!  SeomanReborn has now clinched advancement, and gets to play Noetherian for the title of winner of Pool B.  We're still waiting for Dragon and Johnny C's Round 2 game to finish in Pool B.

Loser of Dragon and Johnny C gets the round 3 bye.
[BD1-B-G] Noetherian v. SeomanReborn
[BD1-B-H] Strangah v. Wolffgang
[BD1-B-I] Tristan v. Winner of Johnny C. v. Dragon [BD1-B-F]

Good luck to everyone!

 

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With the new cards previewed this is what I think.

Alloyin:

Rare:
Alloyin General (*)
Synapsis Oracle (*)

Uncommon:
Technosmith (9)
Scout Drone (9)

Common:
Spark bot (22)
Electronet (22)
Forgeplate (22)
Steelshaper Savant

Uterra
Rare:
Chrogias (3)
Echowisp (3)

Uncommon
Grove Huntress (6)
Fangwood Field (6)
Deepbranch Prowler (6)

Common
Druid's Chant (13.2)
Enrage (13.2)
Cavern Hydra (13.2)
Glowstride Stag (13.2)
Lifeshaper Savant (13.2)
Ferorcious Roar

Nekrium
Rare:
Zimus (2)
Grimgaunt (2)
Yuru (2)

Uncommon
Cull the Weak (6)
Fleshfiend (6)
Vengeful Spirit (6)

Common
Zombie Warrior (22)
Bonescythe Reaver (22)
Darkshaper Savant (22)

Tempys
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Scorchmane Dragon (3)
Magma Hound/Flameblade Champion

Uncommon
Brimstone Field (6)
Flameblade Champion/Magma Hound
Rumbling Earthshaker (6)

Common
Lightning Wyrm (16.5)
Lightning Spark (16.5)
Air Spirit (16.5)
Flameshaper Savant (16.5)
Volcanic Giant

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I could see ferocious roar being an uncommon. Other than that, makes sense to me. 

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Noe and I were talking about Forgeplate. We are not sure if it belongs in the common slot. It is the most powerful out of the commons, but zerging them leads to games people cannot win because they trade 2 for 1 with almost every other creature at levels 2 and 3. You can see this in my games against Wolf and Noe. I would almost think Scout Drone should be common and Forgeplate moves up to Uncommon with the addition of Steelshaper Savant

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I agree that Forgeplate at common concerns me.  Alloyin decks have done very, very well, in part because Forgeplate was so readily available and is so powerful.  Scout Drone at common would give us a ton of junk Alloyin commons… but that's not necessarily a problem, and it's not completely unplayable.

I'm also wondering if Vengeful Spirit should be common, just to increase the number of Nekrium commons to 4.  With 3 commons in a faction, there are just a flood of those commons floating around (of course, this accentuated the issues with Forgeplate--there were so many Forgeplates in each pool that it was practical to get degenerate numbers of them).  If we put Vengeful Spirit at Common, and set 4 Alloyin cards at common (Electro Net, Steelshaper, Spark Bot, and something else), then we don't have any cards that average around 1/pack.  (We'll get packs with multiples, of course, but there's a big difference in the distributions you see if you average around 1/pack (which is what commons at 3 commons to the faction average) and if the most common cards average 11/16 of a card to the pack, which is what you see with 4 commons in the faction.)  Moving Vengeful Spirit to Common would make Fleshfiend and Cull pretty darn frequent, but perhaps not destructively so?

I agree with Dreak that Ferocious Roar doesn't feel Common.

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I strongly support moving Scout Drone to Common (I am sure in actual packs at release it will not be common, but for our draft environment, I am happy to have it at Common).

I could go either way on Vengeful Spirit, but I think I towards making it common. This increases the number of Culls in the draft pool, which isn't wonderful, but on the other hand there are enough interesting cards in other factions that I don't think adding a few more Culls to the draft pool will make everyone want to draft Nekrium.

I would lean towards making Ferocious Roar uncommon (although I could live with it at any rarity).

I would lean towards making Flameblade uncommon (although I could live with it at any rarity)

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I think Flameblade should be uncommon, Roar common, and Vengeful common. Also I agree with uncommon FP.

 

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The Final results of Pool A of the Booster Draft:
Hoywolf: 3-0
CerebralPaladin: 2-1
Grim2103: 2-1
Lidralyn: 2-1

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Racecar0: 1-2
Dreak: 1-2
Ddoberne: 1-2

Thanks to everyone for making this event a success!

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Congrats to Hoywolf! Man, I got stomped in this tourney…

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We're down to one game left, with Tristan and Dragon's round 3 game still ongoing.  It will probably take a couple of days to wrap up.

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I don't want to see all of Enrage, Druid's Chant and Ferocious Roar at common. (In particular, I don't think it is good for Uterra to be that spell heavy in Common.)

I would be fine with seeing Grove Huntress at Common if you want Uterra to have lots of Commons. (In general, variety of Commons is good.)

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Here's my current working rarities for the top 8 draft.  (We should be able to start the top 8 draft by the middle of this week or so--I think the last game should finish up in another couple of days.)

Alloyin:
Rare:
Synapsis Oracle
Alloyin General

Uncommon:
Forgeplate Sentry
Technosmith

Common:
Scout Drone
Spark Bot
Steelshaper Savant
Electronet

Nekrium:
Rare:
Zimus
Yuru
Grimgaunt

Uncommon:
Cull the Weak
Fleshfiend

Common:
Vengeful Spirit
Zombie Warrior
Bonescythe Reaver
Darkshaper Savant

Tempys:
Rare:
Scorchmane Dragon
Magma Hound

Uncommon:
Brimstone Field
Flameblade Champion
Rumbling Earthshaker

Common:
Air Spirit
Lightning Spark
Lightning Wyrm
Flameshaper Savant
Volcanic Giant

Uterra:
Rare:
Chrogias
Mimic Wisp

Uncommon:
Fangwood Field
Deepbranch Prowler
Ferocious Roar

Common:
Grove Huntress
Druid's Chant
Enrage
Cavern Hydra
Glowstride Stag
Lifeshaper Savant

Any thoughts or objections?

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